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Custom Ignition Solutions for Your Classic Bike!
This technology will make your motorcycle tuning much simpler and faster.
Just connect your phone to your motorcycle and you’re ready to go!
A programmable ignition is extremely valuable in repair work as it fits a wide range of bikes.
It’s especially useful if the original part has been discontinued or is overpriced.
And of course it’s a must-have if you are wishing to tune the engine.
Programmable TCI.
Features
- Wireless Programmable TCI.
- Suitable for ONE or TWO* cylinders
- For [2 strokes engines] and for [4 strokes engines with wasted spark*]
- Easy programming via WiFi connection. (No cable)
- You need a simple web browser on any smartphone or laptop. (No app)
- Compatible Windows, Android, Mac, Linux (No special OS).
- Non volatile configuration.
- ONE or TWO programmable ignition timing curves. *
- Rev from 10 to 10,000 RPM.
- Adjustable timing in 13 steps from 500 to 10,000RPM.
- Retarded advance from 1 to 500 RPM to avoid kickback.
- Rev limiter.
- Live Display of RPM and Timing via Wifi.
- 1 input for an inductive pickup (VR).
- Support 2 Pickup polarities. (Positive or Negative first). New !
- 1 input for an Hall Effect Sensor or Points. *
- 1 output for an INDUCTIVE coil type from 1.5ohm to 5ohm.
- Adjustable Dwell.
- 1 input for Kill switch.
- 1 input to select Timing N°1 or N°2 at startup. *
- 1 output for 12v Tachometer signal. *
- IGBT Coil driver.
- Coil Over Voltage: Max 430v
- Coil current: Max 15A
- Coil protection: Shut off after 1sec without pickup signal.
- Power supply voltage: 6 to 16Vdc battery.
- Quiescent current 30mA.
- Current with ignition coil: 4 to 8A peak/1-2A avg.
- Protected against reverse supply voltage.
- Dimensions: 75 x 70 x 25mm (2.95 x 2.75 x 1inch) 150gr (5.3oz) Smaller !
- Strong Aluminum box New !
- Potted for Electrical insulation.
Protecting components from mechanical shock and vibration, thermal shock or moisture. - 300V 8A 12pins connector.
- 6 months Warranty + 1 year Firmware Updates New ! *
- Made in France.
* Options
Cylinders
Single-cylinder:
If there is one separate pickup:
=> This TCI works.
If there are 2 separate pickups (one for low RPM and one for High RPM):
=> This TCI works and uses only the High RPM pickup.
If the engine works with Missing Teeth:
=> This TCI will NOT work
* Twin-cylinders at 360° crankshaft angle:
The engine works with WASTED spark.
If there is ONE twin coil:
=> This TCI works.
See: TCI compatibility
WIRING
Pin 4 is the black mark
12 pins connector
With Hall Sensor
HowTo wire Sidestand & Neutral switches on XT550/XT600/TT600
Setup for Suzuki Savage LS650.pdf
How To setup
To program the ignition, please Print and follow this procedure: Setup Ignition box.pdf
The 12pins connector has a marker trace on pin4 which is Ground.
1) Connect a Black wire from connector pin4 to the black plug of a 12v battery.
2) Wire a bridge between connector pins 4 and 6 (ground and kill input).
3) Connect a Red wire from +12v connector pin5 to the red plug of the battery to power up the ignition.
4) Led blinks 5 times while a WiFi Access Point named “Transmic_ign” show up on you laptop/smartphone.
(If a password is asked, use “password”)
COIL
TCI ignitions need an INDUCTIVE coil type for TCI (Not a CAPACITIVE coil for CDI)
Ignition coils are different from TCI to CDI systems. Why CDI coils don’t work with TCI ignitions?
– CDI coils have low inductance (L=0.1 to 0.7mH) and primary resistance of around 0.3 to 0.8ohm
– TCI coils have higher inductance (L=4 to 15mH) and primary resistance of around 1 to 5ohm
(1ohm for electronic ign./ 3ohms for transistorized ign./ 5ohms for points ign.)
Energy on Primary side = I * I * L / 2 so the higher inductance the better.
TCI coils: IMFsoft, Ignitech, Ignitech, AEM, Bosh High Energy,
Pickup coil
Click here for more infoA pickup (aka: VR, Variable Reluctor, Reluctor, Trigger coil, Magnet) is a sensor with one signal and one ground line.
It consist of a wire coiled around a magnet. When a ferrous object passes by the magnet, the magnetic field is modified and a voltage pulse is generated in the coil, resulting in a sine wave.
– Inductive pickup MUST give 1 signal per crank revolution.
– Pickup MUST put out 3 to 50Vac
– This TCI works with ONE pulse per rev. 1 pickup and 1 reluctor (the metal strip on the flywheel) [“A” or “B” below].
– This TCI works with 2 pickups and 2 bars [E,F].
– This TCI DOES NOT work with multi-pulses pickup (ie 2 reluctors on the flywheel) [C,D].
– This TCI DOES NOT work with a missing tooth flywheel [G].
This ignition works with all Chinese pickup sensor like this one.
Pickup Position
Click here for more info“Pickup Position” is the number of degrees between the very first pulse from the pickup and TDC
To be able to provide the largest advance timing (Example 36° @ 4500rpm) the pickup MUST send a trigger signal BEFORE the piston reaches 36° before top dead center (BTDC).
The “Pickup Position” on the Yam XT600 is 50°.
Many Yamahas have a “Pickup Position” of 72 degrees.
This “Pickup Position” is dependent on:
– Where the pickup is mechanically located with respect to TDC?
– Where is the flywheel’s bar located?
– How long is the flywheel’s bar?
“Pickup Position” is always superior or equal to “Max Advance”.
“Max Advance” = “Base Advance” + “Flywheel’s bar Length”
“Base Advance” value is often written is the User Manuel.
Length of the flywheel’s bar can be measured this way.
You may measure the “Pickup Position” using a protractor or with a caliper and some math.
Pickup Polarity
Click here for more infoWhen the bar/magnet on the flywheel passes in front of the pickup, the pickup generates two pulses of OPPOSITE polarity.
A pickup has 2 wires.
– If you ground wire number 1, wire number 2 will put out a Positive pulse first when the rising edge comes, then a Negative pulse when the falling edge leaves. I call it PN.
– If you ground wire number 2, wire number 1 will put out a Negative pulse first, then a Positive pulse. I call it NP.
If the polarity is Negative then Positive(NP) then the leads are backward, if possible just swap the wires to change the pickup polarity !
Even if this TCIv14 can use both polarities, please favour PN Polarity when possible.
Check the polarity of the pickup: Negative going then Positive/NP or the opposite PN: Positive going then Negative, with a Needle galvanometer (in milliAmp position) while kicking.
Pickup Voltage
Click here for more infoThe higher the RPM, the more voltage it must produce
Formula : Minimum Pickup voltage = RPM/1000 + 3
Example : At 6000rpm the VR pickup must put out : 6000/1000 = 6 + 3 = 9Vpp (Volts peak to peak)
Hall Effect Sensor, Contact Breaker/Points
Click here for more infoOptional
– Points, reluctors, Hall sensors, optical sensors can also be used as long as they give only 1 pulse per revolution. They may need an additional pullup resistor.
– 3 wires digital Hall effect sensors need an external pull-up resistor. The default voltage output is equal to Vcc (+5v to 24v). When a magnet passes in front of the sensor, the output voltage goes low and the ignition will detect the RISING edge meaning the trigger moment will be when the magnet LEAVES the sensor.
Models : NJK-5002C, Hamlin 55100, Allegro A1101-A1104, Allegro old 3141-3144, AiM Hall 712, Haltech Honeywell 1GT101DC, SS495, SS49E etc…
Pullup resistor: 370ohm (270 to 1200ohm)
Live Display of RPM vs Timing via Wifi
Click here for more infoFor diagnostic or tuning purpose, it’s possible to live view RPM and Timing in degrees BTDC on a remote PC connected through Wifi: Video
Because of the impact on TCI performance, please use it for debug only and disable this function when you are done with it!
Ignition timing
Windows software: Interactive_Graph.exe
Tip: No need to use all 13 points if the curve is straightforward.
Just use the first 2 or 3 timing pairs ! The ignition box will process that faster.
Rev Limiter
The last RPM value you enter is the “rev limit” that stop all sparks.
Tachometer
Click here for more infoOptional
An output for connecting a digital Tachometer is available.
Output signal is a 0 to +12volts square signal:
AutoSpark
Click here for more infoIf “Auto-Spark” mode is set to 1,2,3 or4 during Setup then once the TCI is powered on in “Run” mode, it automatically drives the coil at 300 to 10,000RPM without the need of any pickup.
Pickup can be disconnected.
0 = disable.
Bypass.
Click here for more info/!\ Don’t use the function on a running engine otherwise the spark will append way too soon and could damage the piston !!
But along with points and mechanical advance system, TCI in Bypass Mode is acting as a simple Transistorized Ignition.
Diagnose with LED
Click here for more info– If the box is started in RUN Mode and you have selected Curve N°1: The Led flashes 1 time then stays Off.
The led blinks in time when a pickup signal is detected.
– If the box is started in RUN Mode and you have selected Curve N°2: The Led flashes 2 times then stays Off.
The led blinks in time when a pickup signal is detected.
– If the box starts in SETUP Mode : Led blinks 5 times fast, 2 seconds off, blinks 5 times fast again, then flashes once every 5 seconds. (See video)
The led flashes briefly when data reaches the box through WIFI.
Update Firmware.
Click here for more infoKeeping your box up to date.
– If you bought the Warranty + 1 Year Update Option, you can update the ignition firmware whenever an update is available.
Please refer to “How to Setup” above, to know how to do it.
Understanding update status with led (video)
PHOTOS
A 1972 Kreidler Florett 50cc 1cyl 2stk with rotary valve and TCIv14 Max: 16HP and 13500rpm
Video
@Justin Bet Retromod Garage fitted a TCIv14 in one of his Mini Drag Bike.
Legal Eagle XL airplane with half VW engine. Twin cylinder, 4 strokes. 3ohm Harley Sporster coil, Hall sensor + TCIv12.
A 1981 Simson S51B 110cc 1cyl 2stk converted from HPI 210 programmable CDI to RZT-Delta-21 and TCIv11 to suppress kickbacks with HPI:
A 1959 Simson 425S 250cc 1cyl 4stk converted from Magneto to TCIv10:
Scope trace:
Current drawn depending on the coil resistance and Dwell time. Ie for 1ohm and 3ms.
VIDEOS
BBBikeshop.co.uk adapted TCIv12 to an Honda CB400N.
“In 2024 there will be a complete CDI to TCI replacement plug and play system for these Honda 400/450 twins that will include an Inductive HT coil, replacement purpose made pickup trigger coil, direct plug in wiring to the bikes existing loom.” More detail on his FB page.
TCIv11 setup for Sanglas 400E:
Sanglas 400E + TCIv11 + Analog pickup:
Sanglas 400E + TCIv11 + Hall sensor:
Hall Sensor vs Reluctor:
VERSIONS
Click here for more info- Version v14r0c0:
- [Hard] Smaller unit
- [Hard] Strong Aluminium box
- [Hard] Can use both pickup polarities
- [Soft] Optional Firmware update
Do you have an idea of the current draw from around 2,000 to 8,000 rpm?
It depend on the ignition coil. I added a snapshot above at “Photos”
True. This is how I see things:
>You also said to use an inductive coil. Would this coil be a standard automotive type of 1 to 5 ohms primary resistance?
Indeed.
Thank you for the graph comparing the three systems.
True. This is how I see things:
>You also said to use an inductive coil. Would this coil be a standard automotive type of 1 to 5 ohms primary resistance?
Indeed.
Thank you for the graph comparing the three systems.
I’ll be using an Allegro A1104 Hall effect sensor as the pickup on the TCIv12 just ordered from you. It has an internal voltage regulator. You mentioned a pull up resistor. What value do you recommend, or is it needed on this particular sensor?
I left off part of my question. Should the pull up resistor go between VCC and the output signal pins on the A1104?
You should find answers by reading the documentation .PDF above 😉
>To program the ignition, please Print and follow this procedure: Setup Ignition box.pdf
Will do. Thanks!
hello.
first off, wonderful device. reliable and easy when you get it all dialed in.
im attaching my values for a suzuki savage 1999.
should work with all years of this model .
hope it helps someone .
Hi Thierry-
We have a 1991 Yamaha XT600E, and purchased your TCIV14. We are having a problem achieving a spark due to lack of pickup coil voltage being produced. The pickup coil resistance is within specification and all wiring is correct.
So far we have bench tested the TCI with a simulated sine wave from a function/ signal generator representing the pickup coil with success, but when wired to the pickup coil on the bike, it will not spark. We built an amplifying circuit for the pickup coil signal using an OP-AMP and boosted the signal to a higher voltage. The output signal from the OP-AMP was enough to illuminate an LED, but was not enough to trigger the TCI interrupt.
Do you have any suggestions? What are we missing?
Thanks! Brian
Hi Brian
I test all my ignition boxes before shipping with a Signal Generator that mimic a pickup signal. So it’s not a sinus wave but it really looks like a real one. Btw your sinus test is still valid.
The TCI or CDI sensitivity is <2volts where a working pickup goes from around 5 to 20v
I personally also had a faulty pickup on mine even if the ohm reading was withing the manual ! The pickup became defective when hot.
A too low signal may come from a too large gap between pkp and magnet or from a "weak" magnet.
I doubt you can provide a good signal from a faulty pickup with an amplifier...
I would compare the signal with a scope to a known-good one, with and without load/TCI.
20$ scopes or DIY scope: https://transmic.fr/2016/07/01/links/
https://transmic.fr/wp-content/scope/interface_soundcard.pdf
Th
Hi Thierry-
Thank you for the insight. I think the best option for us is to install a new pickup coil and test it again. Hopefully the magnets attached to the rotating assembly on the engine are still strong enough (not “weak” like you mentioned) to trigger a new coil, that rotor assembly seems like a difficult part to find!
This project motorcycle came to us missing the TCI, so my son and I are starting from scratch and have never had it running. Hopefully soon! Thanks again.
Cheers, Brian
Any aftermarket pickup will work, like this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000013985407.html
The hardest part is to fit it in the casing… 🙁